Indian FTR 1200 and Ducati Monster 1200 in comparison

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Indian FTR 1200 and Ducati Monster 1200 in comparison
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Indian FTR 1200 and Ducati Monster 1200 in comparison

Indian FTR 1200 and Ducati Monster 1200 in comparison

Indian FTR 1200 and Ducati Monster 1200 in comparison

Indian FTR 1200 and Ducati Monster 1200 in comparison

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The big naked bike from Ducati puts out 147 hp.

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The Indian FTR 1200 has 120 hp.

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The Ducati Monster 1200 has the proportions of a classic power naked bike.

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The new Indian FTR 1200 looks more delicate due to its length and the narrow tank.

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The TFT display of the Monster 1200, which was last revised in 2017, is very modern.

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The FTR makes it more classic with its analog speedometer.

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The Ducati Monster 1200 rolls up with a 2-in-1 exhaust system.

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The V2 sound of the Indian FTR 1200 also comes from two tailpipes.

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The Ducati rolls on 17-inch wheels at the front and rear and comes with cornering ABS as standard.

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Cornering ABS is only available from the S version on the Indian. A 19-inch wheel rotates at the front and 18 inches at the rear.

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The design of the Ducati Monster 1200 is more muscular.

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Filigree that of the new Indian FTR 1200.

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"Supereasy folds the Ducati Monster 1200, which weighs around 219 kilograms, and falls more easily in an inclined position than an autumn leaf from a tree."

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"The Indian FTR 1200 circles around fast, long curves as if on rails."

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The Ducati Monster 1200 is 2,156 millimeters long.

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The Indian FTR 1200 still packs around 23 centimeters on top: 2,287 millimeters.

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The basic version of the Ducati Monster 1200 costs from 14,190 euros.

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The Indian FTR 1200 costs in the standard version from 14,690 euros.

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The S version of the Ducati Monster is priced at 17,290 euros and then rolls among other things with fully adjustable Ohlins chassis.

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Indian would like to have 15,990 euros for the S version, which then has cornering ABS, wheelie and traction control as well as three driving modes on board. And of course also a fully adjustable chassis.

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The price is similar, plus they’re powered by great V2s. In addition, the approaches of the two bikes are very different.

Ducati Monster 1200 and Indian FTR 1200

First comparison of the naked

Indian is clearly targeting the Ducati Monster 1200 with the FTR 1200. Both roll with well over 100 hp, with their V2 engines ensure great sound and their prices ensure a vacuum in the wallet. We have already compared the two machines.

It costs 14,190 euros D.ucati Monster 1200 in the cheapest version, then it rolls in red, has cornering ABS, traction and wheelie control as well as three driving modes (Sport, Touring and Urban) as standard on board. If you want to have the choice between red and gray, you have to resort to the S version, which costs 17,490 euros.

Indian FTR 1200 and Ducati Monster 1200 in comparison

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Indian FTR 1200 at INTERMOT


Pre-production version in the driving report


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Indian FTR 1200 and Ducati Monster 1200 in comparison

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Ducati Monster 1200 S (2017) in the driving report


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The starting price of the Indian FTR 1200 is 14,690 euros and comes in black with standard ABS and cruise control. Drivers of the S version, which costs from 15,990 euros, can enjoy cornering ABS, traction and wheelie control as well as three driving modes (Sport, Standard and Rain). Then you can also choose from three variants of two-tone paintwork: the red-black Race Replica paint, black-gray or gray-red.

Both are powered by a liquid-cooled V2 – with the Ducati, however, the twin makes 147 hp and provides 126 Nm maximum torque at 7,750 rpm, while the Indian has 120 hp and 115 Nm at 6,000 rpm. MOTORRAD editor-in-chief Michael Pfeiffer describes in his driving report of the pre-series FTR: “Maybe a Ducati works better, but the American runs more smoothly.

17 vs. 18 and 19 inch wheels

There are also differences in the gear train: the FTR 1200, deviating from the class standard, rolls to 19 inches at the front and 18 inches at the rear, which is based on the original Indian Flat Tracker and greatly restricts the tire selection. The Ducati Monster 1200 traditionally relies on the common 17-inch format – front and rear, which gives it wide access to the latest sports tire profiles. Together with the 87 mm long caster, the Monster should be sportier and more agile, while the FTR with its wheel sizes and a 130 mm long caster “circles around fast, long curves like on rails. To do this, however, it has to be packed neatly by the collar ”, as Michael Pfeiffer writes in the driving report. In addition, the Indian is 13 centimeters longer than the Ducati, which could also suggest that it is more geared towards previously sporty Harley riders than sporty naked bike pilots.

The FTR 1200 is definitely comfortable, as the first driving report shows: “Everything feels very light and flaky because you sit so relaxed. In addition, the spring elements swallow a lot due to the long spring travel and a successful basic set-up. “

The Monster takes a different approach, as his colleague Thomas Schmieder confirms with his descriptions of the driving report of the renovated 2017 model: “Supereasy folds down the Ducati Monster 1200, which weighs around 219 kilograms, and falls more easily on an incline than an autumn leaf from a tree. Course corrections in curves? No problem.”

Technical data in comparison

Data Ducati Monster 1200 Indian FTR 1200
design type V2, liquid-cooled V2, liquid-cooled
Displacement 1,198 cc 1,203 cc
injection Ø 56 mm Ø 60 mm
coupling

Multi-disc oil bath clutch

Multi-disc oil bath clutch Bore x stroke 106.0 x 67.9 mm 102 x 73.6 mm compression 13.0: 1 12.5: 1 power 147 hp 120 hp Torque 126 Nm at 7,750 rpm 115 Nm at 6,000 rpm frame Steel space frame Steel space frame fork Upside-down Ø 43 mm Upside-down Ø 43 mm Brakes v / h Ø 320/245 mm Ø 320/265 mm Assistance systems Cornering ABS
Traction control
Wheelie control ABS, cruise control Wheels v / h 17 x 3.5 in
17 x 6.0 in 19 x 3.0 in
18 x 4.25 in Tire v / h 120/70 ZR 17
190/55 ZR 17 120/70 R 19 60V
150/80 R 18 70V Tires Pirelli Rosso III Dunlop DT3-R Radial wheelbase 1,485 mm 1,524 mm Steering head angle 66.7 degrees 26.3 degrees trailing 87 mm 130 mm Suspension travel v / h 130/149 mm 150/150 mm Seat height 795 – 830 mm 840 mm Vehicle length 2,156 mm 2,287 mm Weight with a full tank 219 230 kg maximum weight allowed 390 kg 430 kg Tank capacity 16.5 liters 13 liters Service intervals 15,000 km n / a. price 14,190 euros 14,690 euros

S versions

The S version of the Ducati is 17,290 euros above the S version of the FTR, which costs 15,990 euros. The Monster comes with a completely adjustable suspension from Ohlins, racing brake system, rims with 3 Y-spokes and a carbon fender and LED daytime running.

The fully adjustable chassis is also available on the Indian FTR 1200 S, plus cornering ABS, wheelie and traction control as well as the three driving modes Sport, Standard and Rain. Indian would like to have 15,990 euros for it.

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