Table of contents
- Private second-hand tips from the MOTORRAD editorial team Secret creeds
- Courage for the (alleged) crutch
- KTM LC4 640 Adventure
- Unfiltered
- Data
- BMW R 850 C.
- At the sanctuary
- Data
- Aprilia RS 250
- A feast every time
- Data
- Derbi mulhacen 659
- Just find one now
- Data
- Kawasaki Estrella 250
- That decelerates
- Data
- Husqvarna Nuda 900
- What radicalizes
- Data
- Honda DN-01
- Wonderfully bizarre
- Data
- MZ 1000 SF
- A daring dog
- Data
- Yamaha SRX-6
- How it used to be
- Data
- Harley Street Rod
- Space in the garage
- Data
- Suzuki Van Van 125
- When smoking was cool
- Data
- Cagiva Raptor 1000
- Japanese in Italo-Chic
- Data
- Interview with Frank Buermann
- “Always a very emotional matter”
Markus Jahn
25th pictures
fact
1/25
KTM LC4 640 Adventure.
jkuenstle.de
2/25
MZ 1000 SF.
jkuenstle.de
3/25
MZ 1000 SF.
Jorg Kunstle
4/25
Honda DN-01.
Jorg Kunstle
5/25
Honda DN-01.
Jorg Kunstle
6/25
Husqvarna Nuda 900.
Markus Jahn
7/25
Husqvarna Nuda 900
Markus Jahn
8/25
Kawasaki Estrella 250.
Markus Jahn
9/25
Kawasaki Estrella 250.
Derbi
10/25
Derbi mulhacen 659.
fact
11/25
KTM LC4 640 Adventure.
Jorg Kunstle
12/25
BMW R 850 C..
Jorg Kunstle
13/25
BMW R 850 C..
Markus Jahn
14/25
Aprilia RS 250.
Markus Jahn
15/25
Aprilia RS 250.
Derbi
16/25
Derbi mulhacen 659.
Markus Jahn
17/25
Cagiva Raptor 1000.
Markus Jahn
18/25
Cagiva Raptor 1000.
Suzuki
19/25
Suzuki Van Van 125.
Jorg Kunstle
20/25
Suzuki Van Van 125.
markus-jahn.com
21/25
Harley Street Rod.
markus-jahn.com
22/25
Harley Street Rod.
Hartmann
23/25
Yamaha SRX-6.
Hartmann
24/25
Yamaha SRX-6.
Dentges
25/25
counselor
Used purchase
Used motorcycles – tips from the editors
Private second-hand tips from the MOTORRAD editorial team
Secret creeds
Twelve heads, twelve motorcycles – parts of the MOTORRAD editorial team were forced to make a relentless confession about which second-hand motorcycle they flirted with in private hours. Some objects of desire may surprise you, you decide!
Thorsten Dentges
12/10/2015
The MOTORRAD team deals with motorcycles of all stripes every day. Whether as a test driver who can and must drive all types of cruisers to super sports cars in order to be able to make sensible assessments, whether as an editor in the advisory area to check and recommend retrofit attachments, tires or other accessories. Or as a graphic designer and producer. Our valued colleague Gerd Mayer, for example, compiles hundreds of images and data from various machines for the annual MOTORRAD catalog – it is logical that he is very familiar with almost all models and their benchmarks. But the topic of motorcycles moves us all not only during working hours; privately it is always fun to deal with moped head games.
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The question was which used machine one was secretly looking at. It was irrelevant whether the motorcycle was already in the garage and stayed there for a while, or whether it should be there at some point. The requirement was still to select a model that not every used buyer immediately has on the screen. In addition, there was no price range. Only the purchase of the model selected and presented with a personal touch should be realistic. A highly exclusive Honda NR 750 with oval pistons, limited to just 300 pieces as a new vehicle (1991/1992) and costing 100,000 marks, would certainly be a dream machine for some colleagues, but at this point it would be out of place. Because outside of commonly accessible second-hand marketplaces and probably also outside the budget of an average prospective buyer.
Courage for the (alleged) crutch
The result was a very colorful mix of machines, which sometimes caused a surprise. That is the beauty of the seemingly endless used cosmos with tens of thousands of current offers on Internet exchanges, in classified ads and search-and-sell areas of brand and model forums: There are almost always specific offers that make you weak. Good this way. With our selection, we would like to encourage readers to show the courage to use the (alleged) crutch. Apart from the mainstream, the best offers can often be found.
The experiences of colleagues also show that intensive research and observation are necessary. As well as the right timing when buying. Take Klaus Herder, for example: when he took the BMW cruiser under his wing at a low purchase price, the motorcycle was still called a “problem case”. Colleague Muller, however, should have accessed earlier: The MZ As a new vehicle, regardless of its technical advantages, it was quite a flop because the focus at the time was on the brand’s impending bankruptcy. It was initially sold cheaply as a used one, but then matured on the second-hand market and earned a good reputation among connoisseurs. It is no longer a bargain.
Let yourself be inspired by our deliberately arbitrary and crude selection. The search and hunt for hidden used treasures is a lot of fun!
KTM LC4 640 Adventure
fact
KTM LC4 640 Adventure
Unfiltered
Claudia Werel
Markus Biebricher (52), Head of the Life Department
In an ideal world, I would have a mixture of wanderlust motorcycle, getaway vehicle, courier bike. For chases, everyday escapes, blood reserves or love services. My motorcycle should iron the worst of slopes smoothly and run precisely on asphalt despite long suspension travel. It should be fun – with a lively drive, playful handling, light weight, a lot of range and eternal durability. As the KTM LC4 640 Adventure appeared, I listened. For the first time rally flair flowed unfiltered into the lowlands of everyday life. KTM’s first attempt at a long-distance travel enduro. Link between the single cylinders and the later V2 adventures. The name alone: a promise. Unfortunately one that wears out quickly. The engine shook your brain out of your head and made you unable to childbeat. It was the opposite of indestructible, but the chassis and layout had great facilities. That’s why there are specialists who put the well-known, reliable BMW F 650 GS single-cylinder into the KTM and thus also celebrate success in the real world. I would like to have just such a converted BMW-KTM.
Data
fact
KTM LC4 640 Adventure
Water-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke engine, 625 cm³, 36 kW (49 PS) at 7500 rpm, weight 179 kg, tank capacity 28 liters, seat height 940 mm, top speed 166 km / h, acceleration 0-100 km / h in 4.6 seconds, Consumption (country road) 5.4 l / 100 km
BMW R 850 C.
Jorg Kunstle
BMW R 850 C.
At the sanctuary
mps photo studio
Klaus Herder (53), advisor editor
Under the motto “Can it go or does Klaus still drive it?” A dealer friend of mine flushed an R 850 C into my horror collection around 15 years ago. Even the 1200s was, well, “took getting used to” for chopper fans. So the little sister, which was supposedly underpowered with 50 HP, was definitely not going. But it was cheap and was only supposed to earn its bread and butter as an everyday cucumber. It turned out differently: It was a lot of fun! At least on the country road, because in contrast to my other long fork rods, which mostly came from US production, the nasty boxer device could be moved happily. And in direct comparison with the R 1200 C, it cut a not so bad figure, because it was always easier to turn and looked much more harmonious. The 11 hp less power made up for the good brakes and the decent chassis, at least in my flat, north German homeland. The cheap days for used R 850 Cs are long gone – nothing goes below five million – and I don’t have them in my fleet either. It’s a shame, actually.
Data
Jorg Kunstle
BMW R 850 C.
Air / oil-cooled two-cylinder four-stroke boxer engine, 848 cm³, 37 kW (50 PS) at 5300 rpm, weight 265 kg, tank capacity 17 liters, seat height 780 mm, top speed 167 km / h, acceleration 0-100 km / h in 6.4 seconds, consumption (country road) 5.6 l / 100 km
Aprilia RS 250
Markus Jahn
Aprilia RS 250
A feast every time
Markus Jahn
Ralf Schneider (55), MOTORCYCLE author
High in pollutants and low in performance – that’s how a good friend of mine once mocked them Aprilia RS 250 with its top two-stroke engine. I forgave him, he just didn’t know any better. But I know it. I am still very aware of how fast, razor-sharp and precise the little one goes into corners. How catapult-like it accelerates again if the driver manages to synchronize the narrow range of optimal gas oscillations with the speed at the apex. Temperament has nothing to do with sheer performance, low weight also plays a major role. In addition, spirited motorcycles such as the RS 250 educate people to be precise and sensitive to a degree that we can hardly imagine in our age-laden, performance-saturated times. I also like to have my driving mistakes ironed out by a bearish large-piston engine today, admittedly. But every now and then I just have to renew my acquaintance with the sharp two-stroke blade. And that’s a festival every time.
Data
Markus Jahn
Aprilia RS 250
Water-cooled two-cylinder two-stroke 90 degree V engine, 249 cm³, 40 kW (55 PS) at 11,000 rpm, weight 167 kg, tank capacity 19 liters, seat height 800 mm, top speed 190 km / h, acceleration 0-100 km / h in 4.9 seconds, consumption (country road) 7.5 l / 100 km
Derbi mulhacen 659
Derbi
Derbi mulhacen 659
Just find one now
Markus Jahn
Jorg Lohse (46), Head of Counseling Department
In my motorcycle socialization, the stew was always steaming. Always from Honda – first a crude, pimped-up FT 500, then the indestructible XBR 500 S. It is already clear that for a personal silver anniversary in moped marriage, one is going back to the roots and looking for the funny single life. Honda again? No, too arbitrarily. KTM? Okay, imaginable. Derbi? Aha, no one has it on the pan! The Catalans don’t just do scooters, they screwed together a wonderful single cylinder called the Mulhacen 659 in 2006. Nice scrambler style, but not laboriously looking for retro, but really modern. Crisp chassis with upside-down fork and fat swing arm, great brakes. Okay, the 47 hp engine (don’t worry about the spare parts, everything comes from Yamaha) should have deserved more oomph. But it is definitely enough for brisk country road wagging. Now the big challenge is just to find a used Mulhacen. After all, until the end of the 2011 program, it was only sold in homeopathic doses. But one thing is guaranteed: the bike comes from the hands of lovers!
Data
Derbi
Derbi mulhacen 659
Water-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke engine, 660 cm³, 35 kW (48 PS) at 6250 / min, weight 178 kg, tank capacity 12 liters, seat height 820 mm, top speed 165 km / h, acceleration 0-100 km / h in 5.6 seconds, Consumption (country road) 4.7 l / 100 km
Kawasaki Estrella 250
Markus Jahn
Kawasaki Estrella 250
That decelerates
Jorg Kunstle
Jens Moller-Tollner (40), test editor
A star that carries your name. I was in love back then in Hamburg. The little Estrella 250 leaned shyly on its side stand in front of one of the multi-family brick buildings typical of the Hanseatic city. I twitched, stopped, circled the motorcycle. That didn’t fit into my prey scheme at all. Small, no performance, somehow too little of everything. And that is exactly what has reserved an eternal place in my heart for you. Because the Estrella 250 made it clear to me within a few minutes that less can be much more. With its beguiling lines, the chic single seat, the fine luggage rack, it had already arrived in retro when retro was not yet hip again. In her saddle I saw myself exploring the Elbmarsch in the smallest of ways, slowly discovering new landscapes. Saw me slowing down Unfortunately, when I stood in front of her in Hamburg, I had to keep going. I never saw her again. Hopefully that will change in the future. Old love doesn’t rust.
Data
Markus Jahn
Kawasaki Estrella 250
Air-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke engine, 250 cm³, 13 kW (17 PS) at 7500 rpm, weight 157 kg, tank capacity 14 liters, seat height 770 mm, top speed 118 km / h, consumption (country road) approx. 4.5 l / 100 km
Husqvarna Nuda 900
Markus Jahn
Husqvarna Nuda 900
What radicalizes
Jorg Kunstle
Gert Thole (59), Head of Test & technology
Imagine you’re driving a BMW, but nobody notices. It’s a nice thing: tried and tested high-volume technology in an exotic outfit. And that’s exactly how it is with the Nuda, which was created by Husqvarna when the brand was still owned by BMW. Therefore, from a technical point of view, it is a BMW, composed of parts of the large F 800 construction kit.
But with two very important differences. First, the sensationally jagged design, implemented consistently and spectacularly. Second, the completely changed engine character as a result of the crank pin offset, which turns the rather boring BMW unit into a robust, wild twin. Perhaps the series machine with the best sound ever. When BMW sold the shop to KTM at the end of 2012, the remaining Nuda stocks were suddenly on the market. A good opportunity to get one of those last radical skis. Granted: I couldn’t resist. One without ABS, but that doesn’t matter with such a curve planer. The Nuda also has its rough edges, but that’s exactly what I want – otherwise I could drive a BMW right away.
Data
Jorg Kunstle
Husqvarna Nuda 900
Water-cooled two-cylinder four-stroke in-line engine, 898 cm³, 77 kW (105 PS) at 8500 rpm, weight 198 kg, tank capacity 13 liters, seat height 885 mm, top speed 225 km / h, acceleration 0-100 km / h in 3.3 sec, consumption (country road) 4.5 l / 100 km
Honda DN-01
Jorg Kunstle
Honda DN-01
Wonderfully bizarre
mps photo studio
Thorsten Dentges (44), advisor editor
Maybe a defiant reaction. After all, I had to listen to a lot of ridicule when I bought my large Helix scooter. From motorcycle bourgeoisie who are crazy about run-of-the-mill and only understand a trend when it has already been exhausted by commercial advertising. I do not care. My angular 1992 helix is great. But not just as a style object, I confess at full volume: Driving with it is fun! Sit low on the soft, fart cushion, roll along like a longboard. The (or the?) DN-01 (from 2009) would be a legitimate successor to the Helix: more power, better chassis, but similarly gliding over the asphalt and just as wonderfully bizarre. I like it, I want it! But there is one problem: the price. Vendors often call for more than 5000 euros for used vehicles. Har, har. I guess the phone might rust on them. With a new price of almost 13,000 euros (!) And the small offer, such demands are understandable, but I only managed to pay 780 euros for the old Helix, and it runs like a perpetual motion machine. So I can confidently wait a while for the DN-01.
Data
Jorg Kunstle
Honda DN-01
Water-cooled two-cylinder four-stroke 52-degree V-engine, 680 cm³, 45 kW (60 PS) at 7500 rpm, weight 272 kg, tank capacity 15.1 liters, seat height 700 mm, top speed 170 km / h, acceleration 0– 100 km / h in 7.6 seconds, consumption (country road) 6.9 l / 100 km
MZ 1000 SF
jkuenstle.de
MZ 1000 SF
A daring dog
Yvonne Hertler
Johannes Muller (32), test editor
Already forgotten? The new millennium was still young when the motorcycle brand MZ, better known for small-engine machines, built a thousand-cylinder two-cylinder in the Saxon town of Zschopau. The inevitable Suzuki DR 350 was parked in my strictly budget-limited civilian garage at the time, but the boldly drawn MZ 1000 S and -SF-Twins exerted a special charm. The want to have was strong on many motorcycles, but the 1000 SF like almost no other machine, the daring image of the underdog wafted through it. Almost out of nowhere, the Saxons got involved with the big players again. And quite competently, as the comparative tests from that time show. It may be that the engine was not perfect from the start, but from today’s perspective you can glorify that as a strength of character without much contortion. The chassis was excellent anyway. If you are looking for an alternative with a real rarity to the used Tuono, Speed Triple or Monster today, remember the MZ 1000 SF. Too bad that there are only a few used cars. And it’s a shame that it didn’t work out.
Data
jkuenstle.de
MZ 1000 SF
Water-cooled two-cylinder four-stroke in-line engine, 999 cm³, 83 kW (113 PS) at 9000 / min, weight 224 kg, tank capacity 20 liters, seat height 820 mm, top speed 217 km / h, acceleration 0-100 km / h in 3.6 sec, consumption (country road) 6.2 l / 100 km
Yamaha SRX-6
Hartmann
Yamaha SRX-6
How it used to be
archive
Karsten Schwers (44), chief test driver
A quarter of a century ago, my path to motorcycle happiness was still blocked: 27 hp (only 1-A driving license), limited budget (trainee). Single-cylinders had the best power-to-weight ratio, but my claim not to have a boring machine forbade a Honda XBR 500 standing on every corner. The SRX-6, on the other hand, was rarely seen on the streets even then, and already one on one Interesting lines with a bridge frame look, a narrow fuel barrel and an extravagant oil tank, it could be spruced up with little effort. I installed ox eyes, a mono seat and dismantled the pillion footrests – my slim single athlete was finished. Meanwhile, my access to dream motorcycles is free: racing machines for more than 100,000 euros, turbo or compressor burners with 300 hp, tuning choppers or cutting-edge enduros – I can and must drive everything for work alone. Even if I will probably be disappointed: The feeling from then I would go shopping again. Especially since the used prices are low like the SRX itself.
Data
Hartmann
Yamaha SRX-6
Air-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke engine, 608 cm³, 33 kW (45 PS) at 6500 rpm, weight 175 kg, tank capacity 15 liters, seat height 780 mm, top speed 170 km / h, acceleration 0-100 km / h in 6.2 seconds, Consumption (country road) 5.7 l / 100 km
Harley Street Rod
markus-jahn.com
Harley Street Rod
Space in the garage
Rossen Gargolov
Rainer Froberg (51), fleet manager
One Harley-Davidson Road King is already in my garage. I like Milwaukee bikes. How about an addition to the family? Next to the Road King, I would find a little sister very nice. In my opinion, one with particularly good genes would be the Street Rod, which was only offered from 2005 to 2007. The engine is fantastic, it has punch and the rev range is enormous. The brakes are top notch. If you throw the anchor, you have to be careful that it doesn’t pull you over the handlebars. In any case, I was very enthusiastic about the performance of this machine during the test drive at the 2006 Alpine Masters. And actually I am amazed that Harley no longer tapped the potential. So more sisters who might not go by the name of Rod and might not be choppers or cruisers at all. I’m thinking of a crispy naked bike. The Street Rod had already chosen the path: more upright sitting position, footrests in the middle. In any case, there would be room for other family members in my garage.
Data
markus-jahn.com
Harley Street Rod
Water-cooled two-cylinder four-stroke 60 degree V engine, 1131 cm³, 88 kW (120 PS) at 8250 rpm, weight 292 kg, tank capacity 18.9 liters, seat height 803 mm, top speed 217 km / h, acceleration 0– 100 km / h in 3.9 seconds, consumption (country road) 5.9 l / 100 km
Suzuki Van Van 125
Jorg Kunstle
Suzuki Van Van 125
When smoking was cool
faceCatcher – Bernd Fischer
Gerd Mayer (41), Head of Special Objects
I’ve been a 125cc fan since a race to the North Cape. Fascinating how little motorcycle you need for maximum fun. I’ve always particularly liked the Van Van 125. Its cute exterior with the fun 70s look. From a time when Bud Spencer movies were funny and smoking was still cool. The funny balloon tires that go around the corner much better than you might think, the simple structure with the air-cooled motor that has been built for decades, which offers hardly any power, but outstanding reliability. Wherever you ride this bike, you get positive reactions. It doesn’t hurt anyone! Sitting position extremely relaxed, bathing bag on the luggage rack – and off to the quarry pond! The fact that one has not been in my garage for a long time is due to the sometimes totally excessive used prices. Models of the first year of construction are sometimes offered for 2500 euros, crazy. But it reflects the relationship between the owner and this likeable giver of joy. And: This 125cc is probably the only one that even makes Bud Spencer’s feet slim.
Data
Suzuki
Suzuki Van Van 125
Air-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke engine, 125 cm³, 9 kW (12 PS) at 9500 rpm, weight 129 kg, tank capacity 7.5 liters, seat height 780 mm, top speed 100 km / h, acceleration 0-100 km / h k. A., consumption (country road) 3.1 l / 100 km
Cagiva Raptor 1000
Markus Jahn
Cagiva Raptor 1000
Japanese in Italo-Chic
Katrin Sdun
Michael Pfeiffer (55), editor-in-chief
Cagiva Raptor? Yes, there was in the 1990s. Behind this was a short period of cooperation between the Italian manufacturer and Suzuki. Heart of it all: the veritable 1000 V2 of the Suzuki SV 1000. The idea was actually not bad: Cagiva builds motorcycles with Japanese reliability but Italian design. Still, it wasn’t the big hit. It wasn’t because of the motorcycles themselves. These were technically mature, drove well and in some areas such as handling even better than the Suzuki SV. But as is so often the case with exotic products, neither the brand attracted many buyers, nor could you find a corresponding dealer network as buyer and owner. So the raptors were given only a short life. Nevertheless: If you want to put something special in your garage and want a reliable and robust machine, you can be happy with a Cagiva Raptor. Collectors will be interested in the R version shown here, which, in addition to its eye-catching design, was also equipped with better spring elements.
Data
Markus Jahn
Cagiva Raptor 1000
Water-cooled two-cylinder four-stroke V-engine, 996 cm³, 82 kW (112 PS) at 8500 rpm, weight 215 kg, tank capacity 18 liters, seat height 810 mm, top speed 229 km / h, acceleration 0-100 km / h in 3 , 3 sec, consumption (country road) 7.2 l / 100 km
Interview with Frank Buermann
Dentges
Frank Buermann, used motorcycle dealer from Melle in Lower Saxony
“Always a very emotional matter”
The used motorcycle dealer (www.ankauf-a30.de) from Melle in Lower Saxony buys several hundred used machines every year. What does he think of our selection?
? As a professional buyer, which machines from our colorful range would you put in the shop??
! First of all, all Japanese. Because I know with them that they won’t break. Well, almost never break. For me as a used dealer, this is of course important because I have to and would like to offer customers a guarantee. Besides Japanese motorcycles, I would be very interested in the two choppers, the BMW R 850 C and the Harley Street Rod. Both are not the best models of the respective brands, but there are always buyers for such machines. Cruisers and choppers are generally an issue for me because they are incredibly stable in value. As a rule, these types are also well cared for. And with the Husqvarna Nuda, too, I would take out my wallet, because although the company was temporarily out of the market, well-known BMW technology is available. So getting parts or finding a workshop is no problem.
? And which of the models presented would you strongly advise against?
! From the Derbi. I don’t know a single Derbi dealer or specialist around here. At least my customers would hardly dare to approach such an almost unknown model. I am equally cautious when buying 125 cc. From experience I find it difficult, because unfortunately you often find bad tinkering with these machines, which can cost you dearly later. I would also keep my hands off the Aprilia as a two-stroke engine – you have to see the crankshaft as a wearing part. As is probably the case with the KTM, buyers of such technically sensitive machines usually know what they are getting into and have the desire and ability to screw a lot themselves. In general, however, I would accept almost anything – as long as the history of the used vehicle fits, i.e. maintenance, care and previous owners are known. I think every motorcycle eventually catches an owner who loves it. Buying a motorcycle is always a very emotional affair. Logically, a “rational motorcycle” like one Kawasaki ER-6 rarely stands for more than two weeks. With “heart motorcycles” it sometimes takes six months for someone to fall in love. For example the Honda DN-01, even that has fans. If the price is right, I’ll put something like this on my own. If only because it attracts attention. [laughs]
? What are your “secret confessions”?
! Ducati 750 Nuda, Suzuki DR Big, ahem, BMW C1 scooter, [laughs] and, very weird: AME chopper with coffin tank.
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