Endurance test final balance Honda CBF 1000

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Endurance test final balance Honda CBF 1000
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Endurance test final balance Honda CBF 1000

Endurance test final balance Honda CBF 1000
CBF 1000: Balance & Video

Screw on, look at, screw on. The Honda CBF 1000 only wants one after 50,000 kilometers in 14 months ?? go on.

Peter Mayer

08/16/2007

In this article:

  • Processing, consumption, wear and tear
  • State
  • Reading experiences
  • Costs and maintenance
  • Honda takes a stand …
  • Endurance test rating
  • Price comparison of all used Honda CBF 1000 offers

The numbers speak for themselves. With 4812 machines sold, it soared CBF 1000 last year immediately ranked second among new registrations in Germany. A friendly Honda dealer already handed the ignition key of a new Kilo-CBF to a customer 2634 times (as of June 2007) this season. Which again means second place in the sales hit parade – behind the BMW R 1200 GS. The all-rounder landed right at the front when it came to eating kilometers. In just 14 months and 4 days, Honda’s bestseller purred 50,000 kilometers. Makes 117 kilometers a day. Downtimes due to slipperiness in winter or inspection stops have not yet been factored out. So far, no endurance test machine at MOTORRAD has done its grueling job faster.

Numbers that prove that with the CBF 1000, Honda has hit a nerve with motorcyclists. Which is not surprising. After all, the CBF 600 had already stormed the sales charts before her. With the same concept. A tamed sports engine in a no-frills chassis at an affordable price. In plain language: The four-cylinder Fireblade, which has been tamed from 171 to 98 HP peak power, sits in the steel frame of the CBF 600, which has been almost unchanged from the CBF 600. The whole thing for 8890 euros – including half-shell cladding and ABS. An offer that makes it difficult to say no.

Unless you let yourself be influenced by external impressions. When you look at it, the CBF looks upright, standing next to the athletes, naked bikes or supermotos in the editorial underground car park, quite inconspicuously in line. When it actually stands. Because – see above – CBF was on the road most of the time. The gray mouse had done a lot of persuading. With a set of original suitcases (749 euros), original top cases (323 euros), hand wind deflectors (66 euros) and heated grips (189 euros), the thick one, as it is affectionately known by the CBF fan community, has advanced – for the big tour to the darling of the editors. Even colleague Robert Gluck from the Sport-Schwesternblatt PS comes out drastically in the logbook, but in a clearer way: “The stove looks shitty, but it’s a great bike.” “All that’s missing is the reading lamp.”

That means: The CBF has something. Something down to earth. Is not an affair, but a faithful, caring spouse. Just one that you know where you’re going. In terms of driving behavior anyway. “The engine purrs as smooth as silk, and thanks to the short, but not too short, gearbox, it can be driven almost like an automatic drive,” summarized test editor Rolf Henniges after one of his first trips with the CBF. Indeed, even in sixth gear, the four-cylinder engine pulls off smoothly and smoothly after driving through town from 50 km / h at 2000 revs. A measured 101 HP peak power is easily sufficient for a brisk ride with a homogeneous torque curve.
On the chassis side, relaxation is also the order of the day. The seat height is user-friendly and low, the seating position is comfortable. »Only the wind protection remains inadequate. Besides, it’s damn loud behind the window, ”complains colleague Thomas Schmieder. As a consolation, the finely tuned ABS provides deceleration values ​​that would even look good on a super athlete. The basic tuning of the non-adjustable spring elements – apart from the adjustable spring strut in the spring base – tends towards the soft side.

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Processing, consumption, wear and tear


Endurance test final balance Honda CBF 1000


Photos: Bilski, Fuchs, Gargolov, Honda, mps photo studio, private, Schmieder, Schroder

Point by point: uncritical pitting marks on the tooth flanks.

In contrast, the response of the monoshock to short, hard impacts could be more sensitive. In return, the narrow 160 mm rear tire not only reduces the tendency to stand up when braking, but also improves handling. In addition, the CBF has proven to be a very affordable motorcycle in many ways. For the service stop every 6,000 kilometers, the dealers usually charged far less than 100 euros – unless an oil change was due every 12,000 kilometers. An aspect that gives the Honda another record. Due to the moderate inspection costs, an acceptable average consumption of 6.4 liters and a good resale value, the CBF pushed the Triumph Sprint ST out of the top position in the endurance test. The CBF did not see the workshop more often than at the prescribed inspection intervals. Whereby it almost happened several times in winter. The assistant to the editor-in-chief, Oliver Ebner, was the first to be hit.

At temperatures around freezing point, the CBF suddenly refused to start one morning. Despite a powerful battery and correspondingly long organs, the row four remained silent. It was only after a friendly neighbor gave him bridging help that he found life again. The days after that, the engine started without any problems at similarly low temperatures – until it hit MOTORRAD-action-team employee Daniel Lengwenus. Again, the starter drove the Fireblade engine through unsuccessfully without warning. Whether the new battery (as a goodwill gesture) or the rapidly rising temperatures in spring finally put an end to the incalculable and out of the blue starting problems could not ultimately be clarified by the importer either. The matter remains problematic in any case. Because on the CBF 1000 of some MOTORRAD readers, these – non-reproducible and therefore hardly rectifiable in the workshop – starting difficulties also occurred when it was cold.

Complaints about a roar in the fairing between 2000 and 3000 revolutions and a strong tingling sensation in the handlebar ends between 5000 and 6000 revolutions are also not isolated. Which not only annoyed the crew, but also made the material crumbly. After vibration cracks on the fairing, the shell was replaced during the 24000 inspection (also on goodwill). Elongated holes at the fastening points of the new formwork allowed tension-free assembly, and no more cracks appeared by the end of the test. With a so-called anti-vibration kit – a few self-adhesive foam rubber strips that are attached to the support points of the cladding – the roar should be forgotten. At least that’s what several readers report. The endurance test CBF was already dismantled at the time the kit was delivered by Honda, but it was delivered late. And otherwise? A brake light switch and a taillight lamp still had to be replaced. Not more. The rest – a total of four sets of brake pads, a set of chains and five rear and three front tires – are part of normal wear and tear. Opinions differ on the quality of workmanship.

While the MOTORRAD machine, by the way, regularly bought from the dealer, is acceptably processed and only began to corrode on the strut mount of the steel swing arm, which was exposed to the stone impact, other CBF owners complain of rust spots on the entire frame on the axles and the lower triple clamps in the Italian Honda factory machine produced in Atessa. Also not an issue at the MOTORRAD CBF: the comfort of the seat on long tours, criticized by some readers. On the contrary. Frequent driver Thomas Schmieder noted briefly: “The oil check in the sight glass is very practical, the seating comfort is great.” Probably a question of sitting meat training. Whereby the criticism in detail is not intended to distract from the highlight of the CBF, namely its impressive mechanical condition. Apart from a leaky exhaust valve, which was responsible for a pressure loss of two bar in the third cylinder, the Honda shone in all respects during the technical inspection. All parts were in excellent condition, and all of them remained within the operating tolerance. What only allows one conclusion for the CBF 1000: assemble and drive on.

State


Endurance test final balance Honda CBF 1000


Photos: Bilski, Fuchs, Gargolov, Honda, mps photo studio, private, Schmieder, Schroder

Even after 50,000 kilometers, the Honda CBF 1000 only wants to drive one thing in 14 months – continue.

Cylinder head: An exhaust valve is slightly leaking, otherwise all valves have only slight traces of fire, and the valve seats are also uncritical.

Cylinder / piston: grooves are visible on all cylinders, but these do not affect the dimensional accuracy. The pistons have a uniform contact pattern and are still within the installation tolerance.

Crank drive: All bearing clearances are within the tolerance, and stronger running tracks are only visible in isolated cases.

Power transmission: The gears are in very good condition. Occasionally there is wear and tear on the claw openings. Slight chatter marks on the clutch basket and clutch hub, the steel disks are heavily discolored, but the clutch is fully functional.

Frame / Chassis: The paint on the swing arm in the area of ​​the strut mount has flaked off and rust has formed. The frame and other attachments are in good condition.

Reading experiences


Endurance test final balance Honda CBF 1000


Photos: Bilski, Fuchs, Gargolov, Honda, mps photo studio, private, Schmieder, Schroder

Martin Wopper, from Waldenburg, has been driving a CBF 1000 since June 2006.

It runs and runs, I can only confirm this. After a year and 7000 kilometers on the odometer, there were no problems. Just add fuel and check the air pressure, that was all. It is a bike for all occasions. Speeding around bends, taking a leisurely ride with the daughter (eight years old) or longer tours, everything goes without problems. The only shortcoming has now been resolved! These were vibrations at certain speeds. After installing the set from Honda, there is now calm. In terms of price / performance, this motorcycle is unbeatable. Not everyone can pay over 10,000 euros for a motorcycle. The CBF is a good-natured bike, you could even think about your tax return while riding.
Jens Kreher, Dresden

Before the CBF 1000, I drove about 50,000 kilometers with the Honda Varadero. My experiences with the CBF 1000: The CLS chain oiler (installed since the beginning) has proven itself; MRA spoiler screen – but no comparison with the Varadero windscreen. The space for the pillion is tight – especially when using Givi cases and top cases. The driving behavior with fork springs and shock absorber from Wilbers is fine. The ground clearance not famous. Side stands and main stands are particularly dangerous. The fitting accuracy of the cladding parts is also not good. I would buy a CBF again.
Siegfried Faschingleitner, Linz / Austria

I’ve been driving a CBF 1000 since the end of June 2006, the current mileage is 20,000. Except for a few small details, I’ve been very satisfied with this motorcycle so far. These small details include the vibration noises of the fairing and the now and then clumsy ignition lock. My dealer has already warranted the vibrations twice, but they come back after a few kilometers. Even during the test drive, the high-torque engine fully convinced me, which could not be said of the series chassis. As early as September 2006, the bearings in the steering head and in the swing arm were exchanged for a backlash-free version from bearing professional Emil Schwarz. Since this measure, the machine is much richer, more stable and quieter. This was followed by the replacement of the original fork springs with progressive springs and the non-adjustable strut for the 641 strut (adjustable compression and rebound stage, hydraulic spring preload), both from Wilbers. Since this measure, I am very satisfied with the chassis of this machine. So far, there have been no failures, hours of cornering is possible without any problems. Overall, I am very satisfied with my CBF 1000.
Martin Wopper, Waldenburg

Here are my experiences with the CBF 1000. Positive: The relaxed seating position, the handy chassis and the high-torque motor were convincing after driving around 10,000 kilometers in the mountains (Alps-Dolomites-Vosges). Cons: After taking over the new vehicle, I brought the bike back to the dealer because of the loud roar of the half-shell. Several attempts have been made to eliminate the roar, without success. After about a year, Honda Germany made an anti-drone kit available, but that too without success. Then my dealer changed the inner part of the fairing, again without result. I am currently waiting for a new panel to be delivered. After research, hundreds of customers complain about the roar and poor quality (rust, cracks in the cladding, cause problems).
Dieter Franz, Merzig

After ten years of single-cylinder enduro bikes, I bought the CBF 1000 because of the low price and your positive top test. So the CBF ran over 22,000 kilometers without any problems. The inspections were quite inexpensive, but too frequent for a frequent driver. My friendly Honda dealer in Cologne-Kalk had the opportunity to sell me a lot of useful accessories. For example: windshield (MRA), carbon film (Honda), topcase bridge (Honda), Quicklock tank bag (SW-Motech), gel seat (Bagster), crash pads (LSL), rear wheel cover (Honda), Scottoiler, navigation system and socket in the Cockpit (TomTom). On many excursions, CBF needed five liters, on the home route it can be a good liter more. The only point of criticism: the lack of lean angle, especially with giant feet like me. Overall, I’m very happy with the Honda.
Bernd Prochnow, Cologne

I have owned a CBF 1000 with JF lower fairing, Scottoiler and Acumen gear indicator since August 18, 2006 and have covered 12,000 kilometers to date. The fuel consumption is limited to 5.7 liters. What bothered me from the first moment, however, was the misalignment of the handlebars, which could be reduced by around 50 percent by twisting, but has still not been eliminated. The handlebar stands are straight. For a company like Honda, this is pathetic, and it occurs on other machines as well. What bothers me is the lousy wind protection of the windshield at my height of 1.87 meters. Above means turbulence on the helmet, at the bottom there is strong pressure on the upper body. Furthermore, I have minor and tolerable vibrations in the middle speed range, which are planned to be eliminated by installing the Silent-Kit at the next customer service. However, I am not familiar with cold start difficulties as you have described. The principle of the CBF 1000, which I also use on the way to work, is ingenious – have fun, suitable for everyday use, economical and, apart from a few small quirks, came onto the market in a fully developed form.
Horst Radeke, Cologne

Costs and maintenance

costs
Operating costs over 50,000 kilometers
21 oils at 11.40 euros each 239.40 euros
7 oil filters at 11.35 euros each 79.45 euros
1 air filter at 34.95 euros 34.95 euros
8 spark plugs at 11.43 euros, 91.44 euros
2 sets of rear brake pads at 41.49 euros each 82.98 euros
4 sets of front brake pads at 42.61 euros each 170.44 euros
1 chain set 214.47 euros
Brake fluid € 5.84
Small parts, lubricants 35.53 euros
Seals 3.56 euros
Inspections and repairs: 1218.72 euros
Tires (including assembly, balancing and disposal) 1565.48 euros
Fuel 4140.23 euros
Total cost 7882.49 euros
Acquisition cost 8880.00 euros
Loss of value 3780.00 euros
Estimated price (dealer selling price) 5100.00 euros
Costs per kilometer (without depreciation) 0.16 euros
Costs per kilometer (with depreciation) 0.23 euros

maintenance
Rear tires renewed, Michelin Pilot Roadkm stand 8023
Front tires, Michelin Pilot Road, and rear brake pads renewed 11842
Front brake pads renewed 12574
Rear tire renewed, Michelin Pilot Road16542
Battery renewed (guarantee) 25602
Rear light bulb renewed 26134
Panel part exchanged (goodwill) 26260
Brake light switch replaced 26260
Chain set renewed 29539
Front and rear tires renewed, Metzeler Z629539
Rear brake pads renewed31282
Front brake pads renewed36533
Front and rear tires renewed, Continental Road Attack38055
Rear tire renewed, Continental Road Attack 45430

Honda takes a stand …

Honda men Bescher and Heiland examine the CBF parts.

… to the vibrations occurring in the range of 5000 rpm.
Since the level of vibration has been praised in the past in comparative tests with other series models and customers only report about it occasionally, we assume that the cause is still acceptable series production.

… for roaring in the fairing area.
The trade was informed of effective remedial measures and these were incorporated into series production with the start of production of the 2007 model. Justified complaints within the warranty period will be resolved by our authorized dealers.

… to the starting problems that appear out of the blue with some models – and just as they disappear again.
The reason for this is not yet known, as the start-up problems could not be reproduced in the few cases.

… to the hooking ignition lock.
Since there was no change during the test period, there is no wear and tear. We know, however, that operating our ignition / steering locks, which have been installed hundreds of thousands of times, takes some getting used to due to unrivaled theft protection.

… on the rust on the frame of some CBF from MOTORRAD readers.
The assessment of the endurance test machine showed no signs of rust on the frame despite tough winter use, and our dealers have not received any complaints either. The traces of rust on the rear swing arm were caused by massive stone chips.

… to the uncomfortable bench on longer tours.
The seating comfort including the seat height adjustment is unanimously praised in our representative customer surveys. A change is therefore not planned.

Endurance test rating

The rating table gives an overview of the MOTORRAD endurance test machines from the last few years. A maximum of 100 points can be earned, divided into five sections. The costs per kilometer include expenses for inspection, replacement and wear parts, such as tires and chain sets. The basis for evaluating the fuel consumption is the average consumption over the entire 50,000 kilometers. The loss in value is based on a DAT estimate at the end of the endurance test.
The relation to the list price is assessed at the beginning of the test. Extraordinary workshop visits result in a deduction of one point each. Breakdowns in which the motorcycle could not continue will be penalized with five points. In the technical condition, the wear dimensions and the visual condition of the individual parts are included. Moderate loss of value, low costs and very good condition after the end of the long-term test secure the Honda CBF 1000 first place.

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Endurance test final balance Honda CBF 1000


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