KTM 1290 Super Duke R old and new in comparison test
2016 vs. 2017
Even a super duke cannot rest on titles and laurels. Therefore, after three years, KTM is bringing the second evolutionary stage of the KTM 1290 Super Duke R: "The Beast 2.0"! What can the new one do better than the old one??
We were all pretty puzzled back then, at the end of 2013: BMW and KTM presented their new Power-Nakeds every few weeks, and they were both different than expected. Upside-down world: the BMW S 1000 R was surprisingly wild, loud, extroverted. And the KTM 1290 Super Duke R, for the presentation of which many journalists traveled in tails after all the fanfare, then turned out to be acoustically subtle, tame and easy to use.
KTM 1290 Super Duke R old and new in comparison test
2016 vs. 2017
That is new: Fresh styling, split LED headlights.
What’s the point? Design is certainly a matter of taste, but the new one looks much more modern, especially from the front. The split headlight front is KTM’s trademark from this model year and can be found on the small Duke models such as the Adventure line. That alone makes the old woman look old. The bare rear makes the 1290s even more muscular and broad-shouldered. Although some testers were of the opinion that the previous rear fairing didn’t look bad either. As I said: it’s all a matter of opinion.
That is new: Handlebar shape and position.
What’s the point? Apart from the new, finer upholstery, the seat remained unchanged, but the handlebars are now half a centimeter flatter, almost two centimeters wider and less cranked. That was well received by the testers. With the old Super Duke you could always feel a hint of Suzuki feeling, the less curved handlebar ends of the new ones feel more like KTM. There are still four mounting positions. So far, the handlebars have been fitted to the rear as standard, but on the test machine it was in the front position. It fits better, puts more pressure on the front wheel, but is by no means more uncomfortable.
Operation / equipment
That is new: TFT cockpit, keyless go, LED light.
What’s the point? Sure, in comparison with the bright, colored TFT display, the LCD display looks pale, old-style. But not everything was worse in the past: the large, conventional rev counter, for example. The tricky bar chart of the new ones provides reference values at best. Further information is easier to read. The illuminated switches are also practical. Unfortunately, the sluggish flasher switch on the new one now gives no feeling when switching off. Also new: the cruise control, a pleasant thing for connecting stages. And the transponder key, which some find practical, others dispensable. The KTM menu structure is logically structured, but it still requires a lot of keystrokes. That could work more simply and quickly, the current competition proves it. Definitely a step forward: the new LED light illuminates the road more brightly than the previous headlights.
That is new: Euro 4 vote, titanium intake valves, higher compression.
What’s the point? Let’s forget about the extra performance. Whether 180 hp (as promised first), 168 hp (as then delivered) or 177 hp (as now promised and delivered): it doesn’t matter. Because the horsepower is only packed on top, even the toughest country road drifter cannot do that. Otherwise, the performance curve has only changed marginally, with old and new there is always an excess of boost everywhere. But: The new engine is smoother and more refined thanks to the resonator chambers on the intake ducts, digesting lower speeds without chain whipping and jerking. And it is more economical, swallowed 0.8 liters / 100 km less on the consumption lap, i.e. almost 15 percent. When driving briskly, the difference shrinks a little, but remains.
That is new: Euro 4 vote, exhaust flap.
What’s the point? Some testers were enthusiastic about the previously voluminous but subtle sound, which goes so well with the smooth character. The new one is louder. Less on board, more from outside. Customers want more sound, says KTM.
That is new: Optional shift assistant with blipper function.
What’s the point? 90 percent – at least – of the testers are enthusiastic about the optional Quickshifter of the V2, which works well in both shifting directions if it needs longer shift pauses than a four-cylinder. The author belongs to the minority who cannot get used to coupling. However, it would hardly be advisable to forego this option, after all you want to sell the machine again at some point. If you really want to couple, you can switch off the Quickshifter.
However, it was noticeable that the 2017er shifts harder. On the one hand, this is due to a harder spring in the switching mechanism (as in the GT), and on the other hand, because the gearshift linkage on the test machine was screwed on in the position that results in shorter switching travel at higher forces. Certainly a matter of taste, but the old ones liked the easy switching better. The extended shift lever appearance is not a good idea, at least for committed angling experts: During the photo drives, the shift lever came into contact with the ground, which in turn activated the (not switched off) quickshifter and led to an entertaining front wheel slide. The narrow appearance of the previous model would certainly be a tip for committed pilots or track assignments.
That is new: Harder springs at the front, new set-up.
What’s the point? For all testers, the old people’s response to edges and holes in the asphalt pavement was too harsh, so one would tend to prefer softer springs. Goal: The new one has harder springs at the front. But that doesn’t make them any harder, rather the suspension of the 2017er definitely speaks better. Overall, the damping works more binding, the machine no longer hops so insensitively over rag rugs. However, there is still some room for improvement.
Steering behavior and handling
That is new: Tires.
What’s the point? We have known it for a long time from tire tests with the long-term test machine: The series tires of the previous Super Duke with Dunlop Sportsmart 2 were not the best choice. The Dunlops allow the KTM wearer to give in, react more sensitively to bumps in an inclined position, could have more self-damping and need temperature until they build up grip. The new Metzeler are better in all respects. The M7 RR harmonize perfectly with the KTM, the machine runs more accurately, more smoothly, and turns more easily. Whereby you always ask yourself in the saddle: Can tires alone do that? In practice, it will be a complex interplay of tires, suspension and geometry that will make the new one appear better balanced.
That is new: Upgraded assistance systems with Bosch IMU and cornering ABS.
What’s the point? This is where the decisive progress is taking place: The new Super Duke has now received a similar electronics package as the Super Adventure and Super Duke GT already had. In plain English, this means: Bosch lean angle sensors that control traction control and ABS. Whereby this is a two-channel ABS without a composite brake (like the Super Duke GT and Super Adventure). The Bosch MSC (ABS cornering) also works without a compound effect with only minimal compromises, as MOTORRAD was able to test with the 690 Duke R..
The lean angle sensors also improve the effectiveness of the traction control. The old Super Duke regulated early, roughly and not always reliably. What colleague Georg unintentionally demonstrated during the test drives. At a decent speed he put down a heart-rending slide in a moderate incline while pulling, which he could only catch with a lightning-fast reaction on the throttle. The electronics did not intervene. This did not happen with the new one, it regulates more reliably and faster.
The traction control is adjusted depending on the driving mode (Rain, Street, Sport). It can be switched off, now even while driving, but cannot be adjusted at will. For this you need the optional and mandatory Track Pack (package price 340 euros). This allows you to change the traction control in track mode (and only in this mode) in nine stages and switch off the wheelie control. The test machine had this option on board, the differences between the stages are enormous. But as I said, it can only be used in track mode, which has only limited operating options on the road. Why none of this is standard and freely configurable and combinable like the competition remains the Austrian secret. Another extra: the ABS dongle that unlocks the Supermoto ABS for 116 euros.
Is the old old iron now? Not at all, you can upgrade them with a manageable amount of effort: tires, handlebars, fine work on the suspension. The current on-board electronics cannot be retrofitted, as the new one is clearly superior. There have also been advances in the engine and chassis, but with the mandatory accessory packages, the Super Duke now costs around 1500 euros more. In terms of character, "The Beast" remains true to itself in version 2.0 – and that’s a good thing.
KTM 790 Duke and KTM 1290 Super Duke R in the test Middle class versus power naked bike 9,790 or 16,995 euros? 105 or 177 hp? Inline twin or V2? During…
Comparison test: Triumph Speed Triple and KTM Super Duke Between heaven and hell No, it really doesn’t work, the front wheels don’t want to stay on the…
BMW S 1000 R and KTM 1290 Super Duke R in comparison test Who pulls the fur over whose ears?? Two different concepts, one goal: the BMW S 1000 R and KTM…
KTM 1290 Super Duke R in the top test Even the neighbors get curious “And? How does that do? ” Asks the curious neighbor who rushed up to see the KTM…
KTM 1290 Super Duke R in 50, 000 km endurance test A lot of fun, little to complain about The 1290 Super Duke R is very popular with KTM fans. In the…
2020 KTM 1290 Super Duke R review: the Beast is angry ! Released at the end of 2013 in the jungle of sporty roadsters, the 1290 Super Duke R makes them…
KTM 1290 Super Duke GT test: ready to track ! Adding a windshield and a semi -fairing to a roadster to develop road skills, the idea is not new. But when…
KTM 1290 Super Duke GT , BMW S 1000 XR, Kawasaki Z 1000 SX Tourer and Suzuki GSX-S 1000 F Sports tourers in the comparison test With wind protection and…
BMW S 1000 XR, Kawasaki ZZR 1400 and KTM 1290 Super Duke GT Power touring bikes put to the test Content of With the BMW S 1000 XR , Kawasaki ZZR 1400 and…
Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory and KTM 1290 Super Duke R (2018) Power naked bikes in comparison Forest and field shake, the earth shakes. A performance…
Top test Yamaha MT-01 When the asphalt ripples Two pistons, the size of beer mugs, push forward with elemental force, around a martial-mechanical…
Nine power naked bikes in a comparison test New, renovated and tried and tested Who sows the wind will reap storm. Nine of the most powerful naked bikes…
Eurosportler test comparison Character heads The faces of the BMW R 1200 S and Moto Guzzi 1200 Sport mainly shape their cylinders in the wind. They are…
BMW HP4, Kawasaki ZX-10R, MV Agusta F4 RR Top super sports cars from BMW, Kawasaki and MV Agusta Content of In terms of electronics and chassis, MV…
BMW K 1200 RS test We are we BMW motorcycles have always been idiosyncratic and down-to-earth characters who like to tread unfamiliar but sure-footed…
Yamaha FJR 1300 in the test The luxury steamer turns into a sports yacht Content of PS takes on the sportiest travel steamer on the market, the weighty…
Track test : 1000 super athletes 1000 super athletes compared to the slopes Content of All against one is common, but common. And anyone who, like BMW,…
Review Yamaha WR 400 F Jubilation, excitement, serenity The WR 400 F can be cheered up to almost 12,000 revolutions, which makes the driver happy. The…
BMW R 1150 R Rockster test Signs of storm Hard to believe, but true: BMW is also surfing the streetfighter wave from now on. In no time at all, the…
Kawasaki Z 300, KTM 390 Duke and Yamaha MT-03 in the test 300cc bikes in comparison Faster Higher Further? There is another way. Kawasaki Z 300, KTM 390…