Table of contents

• Tips for buying used Motorcycles with over 100,000 kilometers
• Honda and BMW represented most often
• Ducati ST2 (EZ 4/2002) with 121,766 km
• BMW K 1100 LT (EZ 4/1993) with 302,617 km
• Comment from MOTORRAD editor J. Lohse
• Kawasaki Z 1000 (EZ 3/2004) with 144,703 km
• Yamaha XJ 900 F (EZ 5/1987) with 181,032 km
• Comment from MOTORRAD editor T. Dentges
• BMW K 75 Ultima (EZ 9/1997) with 267,347 km
• Piaggio Beverly 250 (EZ 6/2005) with 126,402 km
• Comment from MOTORRAD editor K. Herder
• Interview with Helge Schroder (Service Manager)
• Price overview of used motorcycles with over 100,000 kilometers

Herder

21 pictures

Lohse

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Aglasterhausen, Ducati ST2, EZ 4/2002, 121,766 km.

Lohse

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Actually a tragic case. Ducati is building a famous tourer based on the legendary two-valve V2, which has been increased to 944 cubic meters – and then the (visible) kilometer collection ends at 99,999.

Lohse

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However, the first owner Wolfgang did well to document this historical moment of “zeroing” as precisely as possible. Just like his body-and-stomach screwdrivers have meticulously noted down all service work for 15 years. Sounds like a deal, doesn’t it? 1,500 euros – let’s go.

Lohse

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Neutraubling, BMW K 1100 LT, EZ 4/1993, 302,617 km.

Lohse

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This pine green luxury liner from the good old K dynasty has been waiting for more than a year “for a freak who just sets off with her”.

Lohse

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Autodealer Michael is acting on behalf of the now almost 80-year-old first owner, who at the time bought a second LT as an extra parts carrier to better care for and look after the four-cylinder. The price, which has now been reduced to 1,699 euros, includes an attractive overall package.

Lohse

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Jorg Lohse: “It is amazing how fit motorcycles appear when they have been moved in one hand from the very beginning. Used vehicles that only run a fraction of their mileage, but already have a number of owners in their history, look much more messed up.”

Dentges

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Kraichtal, Kawasaki Z 1000, EZ 3/2004, 144,703 km.

Dentges

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The digital instrument shows theoretically up to 999,999 kilometers. The Kawa is far from that, but with its mileage it is the absolute mileage king of this model in Germany.

Dentges

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Dealer Hannes Friedrich calls for a little over 2,000 euros for the externally scraped down machine with its rims eaten away. It ensures that the technology is still in good shape. Indeed: it starts, runs smoothly, sounds healthy.

Dentges

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Oberotterbach, Yamaha XJ 900 F, EZ 5/1987, 181,032 km.

Dentges

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At the time, owner Heinz Knospel paid exactly 10,000 marks for the new vehicle and twelve years ago, when the mileage was 160,000, another 1,000 euros went into a major gearbox overhaul.

Dentges

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Except for porous rubbers (e.g. intake manifold), the first-hand machine is well-maintained and very neat. There are some spare parts on top, the price of 650 euros is very modest.

Dentges

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Thorsten Dentges: “Even if it has 17 years and 35,000 kilometers more under its belt, I would rather invest a few hours and euros in the ridiculously cheap Yamaha. In contrast to the neat old lady, the dingy Kawa could still turn out to be a construction site in the future, despite the dealer warranty.”

Herder

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Castrop-Rauxel, BMW K 75 Ultima, EZ 9/1997, 267,347 km, 1,500 euros.

Herder

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MKM boss Beate not only puts the K 75 farewell model in the right light, but also one of the four previous owners – Winfried bought the three-cylinder as a daily registration with zero kilometers and then toured over 220,000 kilometers across Europe.

Herder

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Major repairs? Nothing. The water pump has recently been overhauled and the output has been reduced from 68 to 34 hp for beginners.

Herder

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Dormagen, Piaggio Beverly 250, single room 6/2005, 126,402 km, 1,190 euros.

Herder

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German and physical education teacher Lutz bought the large scooter brand new from civilian service money and used it as a car replacement for the daily 60-kilometer drive to the university.

manufacturer

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This left an exhaust and three sets of tires on the track. The only real weakness of the load donkey: the steering head bearing. “That came at least six times.” But otherwise: “It has never let me down!”

Herder

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Klaus Herder: “I firmly believe that motorcycles (okay, scooters maybe …) have a soul. They are like pets and can sense exactly whether you mean well with them. And if so, they give a lot back.”

counselor

Used purchase

Tips for buying used motorcycles with over 100,000 kilometers

Tips for buying used
Motorcycles with over 100,000 kilometers

In the passenger car sector, six-figure mileage is quite normal for used vehicles. Used motorcycles with over 100,000 kilometers are still exotic. And an occasion for a used motorcycle discovery tour.

Thorsten Dentges, Klaus Herder, Jorg Lohse

08/17/2017

Was everything better in the past? In any case, not necessarily the durability of motorcycles. At the beginning of the 1980s, the rule of thumb was that a single-cylinder engine should be given the first piston oversize after around 30,000 kilometers, and an in-line four-cylinder with over 50,000 kilometers was actually in need of overhaul. Unaffected by the fact that the material quality, the production methods and also the lubricants have improved significantly in the last three decades, many motorcyclists still cling to the old ideas. Selling a motorcycle with mileage in the higher five-digit or even six-digit range can be a tough endeavor. The MOTORRAD endurance tests regularly prove that 50,000 kilometers can be covered on more and more motorcycles under the heading “just retracted”.

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Honda and BMW represented most often

Significantly more attention, on the other hand, should be devoted to the other end of the mileage flagpole – keyword damage to the stand. Outdated tires, rust in the tank, defective ABS pressure modulators, dead starter batteries, corroded plug connections – all topics that kilometer kings rarely deal with. If you look around in the relevant sales portals (and ignore the alibi kilometer data such as 999,999 or 123,456), you will very quickly see a brand and model ranking for the over 100,000 kilometer offers: first place by far BMW (especially K 100 models), second place and also well represented Honda (Gold Wing, ST 1100), behind them with due distance Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki and Harley. Triumph and KTM? Not really like that.

Ducati ST2 (EZ 4/2002) with 121,766 km

Lohse

Ducati ST2.

There you have in the middle of the white-blue miles & More flood of offers finally found “something else” with a significant mileage – and now guess which motorcycle the busy salesperson will use to come to the viewing appointment? With a BMW, of course! Almost apologetically comes from Wolfgang (64): “Well, Ducati unfortunately didn’t have anything suitable for me in the program. ”He would have remained loyal to the Reds. After all, the Ducati ST2 never let him down from the first kilometer: “Which has a lot to do with the fact that my Duc was looked after in the excellent workshop by Martin and Uli Messer.” Showroom in Aglasterhausen between Heilbronn and Heidelberg, on the edge of the Odenwald – almost exactly as it was 15 years ago.

Okay, the black plastic has faded a bit here and there, but the distance of a triple circumnavigation of the world was amazingly good for the Diva di Bologna. “It wasn’t anything dramatic either,” remembers Wolfgang. Only the fuel gauge didn’t work at first – it went exactly the wrong way round. The further Wolfgang drove, the more fuel there was suddenly in the tank, according to the display. The instrument was exchanged under guarantee, done. From then on, the usual maintenance work followed. Wolfgang is an avowed late starter (“When I was 48, my motorcycle-riding daughter brought me to my driver’s license”), but has been driving obsessively ever since. The retired management consultant was particularly fond of the Alpine region: “But not alone – my wife, who was initially skeptical about the motorcycle bacillus, felt very much at home on the Ducati ST2.” And what is now going on with the R 1200 R – as Wolfgang is motivated, it’s going to be six figures again.

BMW K 1100 LT (EZ 4/1993) with 302,617 km

Lohse

BMW K 1100 LT.

The BMW K 1100 LT, which is at the car salesman Michael Scheidacker’s (53) in Neutraubling near Regensburg, has been on the road for a long time in this kilometer universe. “Actually, I only do it in cars. Young used vehicles, leasing returns – but in between there are always these social cases that you shouldn’t leave behind. ”Social case means that the motorcycle has a story and is simply too good to sell.

And the story of the 1993 luxury tourer is damn long with the original 302,817 kilometers (!) In one hand (!!): “Richard treated himself to the BMW K 1100 LT shortly before retirement and then cruised across the continents – himself It went down to Asia! ”The last tour finally took the Regensburg globetrotter to Michael’s farm:“ Hobby job at 79, the bones no longer wanted. But the ignition key, he had to give me personally. “

Comment from MOTORRAD editor J. Lohse

It is amazing how fit motorcycles appear when they have been moved in one hand from the very beginning. Used vehicles that only run a fraction of their mileage, but already have a number of owners in their history, look much more messed up. Hopefully the Ducati ST2 and BMW K 1100 LT will soon be “on the road” again. Never stop a running system …

Kawasaki Z 1000 (EZ 3/2004) with 144,703 km

Dentges

Kawasaki Z 1000.

Actually, I don’t want to sell them at all, ”claims supplier Hannes Friedrich. Well-worn salesman’s saying, unbelievable from the mouth of a professional motorcycle dealer. In addition, the Kawasaki Z 1000 With 2,190 euros called up, this is the cheapest second-hand offer in Germany, and copies of the machine offered from 2004 onwards are rarely found for less than 3,000 euros. However, there is currently hardly a retro Z with more kilometers on the clock. Dealer Friedrich stumbled upon it in May, was surprised at the unusual mileage, was able to buy the machine cheaply, and now it is in the Kraichtal store. The history of the Kawa is quickly told. The first owner, born in 1969, only drove with seasonal license plates from March to November, but apparently in all weather conditions. “He was a daily driver, saw a commercial vehicle in the Kawa.

He didn’t really care what the part looks like, but technically he kept it on its toes and did all the necessary maintenance work, ”reports Friedrich. All papers, TuV and workshop reports are there, great. The appearance, however: disaster. Salt-eaten rims and damaged manifolds, scratched metal and paint surfaces, plastic parts faded to tired orange, rust blooms under the tank ring. The dealer grins as he starts the engine – runs smoothly and smoothly. “When interested parties complain about a GSX, R1 or CBR offered here in the store that 30,000 kilometers are quite a lot, I take them to the Kawasaki Z 1000, show the odometer reading and let the engine run. If the customers then see what a sporty four-man from Japan can put up with, they usually stop haggling any further, “says Friedrich with a smile. Aha, in view of this sales psychological side effect, it now seems credible that the kilometer king will actually stay in the store for a long time.

Yamaha XJ 900 F (EZ 5/1987) with 181,032 km

Dentges

Yamaha XJ 900 F..

The private supplier Heinz Knospel from Oberotterbach in the Palatinate is overwhelmed with annoying price negotiations. He is therefore offering his 180,000-kilometer XJ 900 for a manageable 650 euros. Including new replacement seat, original exhaust and other parts. the Yamaha He treated himself to the XJ 900 F as a new machine for a company anniversary in 1987. Also used it as a commuter vehicle and “just chomping around”, smiles the 74-year-old, who can only climb onto his lower second machine due to hip problems.

The Ymaha XJ 900 F has been lovingly cared for, stood dry and serviced by professionals, a really good offer for age and kilometers. Cheeky purchase ticks still only offered him 150 euros. “No, I’d rather keep it for another 30 years,” says Knospel, stroking the tank.

Comment from MOTORRAD editor T. Dentges

Even if it has 17 years and 35,000 kilometers more under its belt, I would rather invest a few hours of work and euros in the ridiculously cheap Yamaha XJ 900 F. In contrast to the preppy old lady, the scruffy Kawasakai could be Z 1000 Despite the dealer guarantee, it will still prove to be a construction site in the future.

BMW K 75 Ultima (EZ 9/1997) with 267,347 km

Herder

BMW K 75 Ultima.

It doesn’t happen every day that the used advice editor is presented with one of the previous owners in addition to the motorcycle when he visits the dealer. But since MKM in Castrop-Rauxel (www.mkm-bikes.de) is already very familiar and many customers are convinced multiple offenders, it was no problem for boss Beate Knasiak to lure the most important of the four previous owners of the cobalt blue BMW K 75 Ultima to the photo session. In 1997, the ex-police officer and retired elementary school teacher Winfried (71) took pity on releasing the three-cylinder, which had been waiting for buyers for almost two years as a daily permit, from its showroom existence.

Winfried did not succumb to the two-wheel bacillus until he was 37 and was the first motorcycle to chase a BMW K 100 over a largely trouble-free 410,000 kilometers – and even made it in MOTORRAD 12/1998. The BMW K 75 Ultima, marketed by BMW as a fully equipped last-edition discontinued model, was Winfried’s second machine, and after more than 220,000 kilometers with Beate, he swapped it for a K 100 RS, which has been followed by two K 1200 RS to this day. “I just like the old, indestructible in-line engine. The new one is too sporty for me, ”says year-round pleasure driver Winfried. The Ultima has since found two new owners, but always ended up in the very well-stocked MKM motorcycle exhibition with around 80 used vehicles – with a focus on BMW. The HU is new, the water pump is made, and if desired, the throttle can be de-throttled again. Tip for visitors: bring your time and fortify yourself beforehand in the directly adjacent “Walla’s Imbiss” (Mon-Fri from 7 am) tasty and inexpensive.

Piaggio Beverly 250 (EZ 6/2005) with 126,402 km

Herder

Piaggio Beverly 250.

From Castrop-Rauxel it goes to Dormagen on the Rhine, just under 100 kilometers south-west. There German and sports teacher Lutz (39) is waiting for a buyer for his 22 hp Piaggio Beverly 250. In the beginning there were plenty of people interested in the large scooter, and everyone drew his attention to the supposed typo in the kilometer indication. In the meantime, Lutz expressly points out that it is definitely a six-figure mileage. With which the interest decreased noticeably.

Which is possibly a mistake; because Beverly, which offers ample storage space, is still in really good shape despite the astronomical mileage for a scooter. A few scratches on the right suitcase (“Tipped over when parking because of the raised lawn edging”), nothing more to complain about. Maintenance backlog? Nothing. Lutz toured 30 kilometers to the university in Cologne and back every day and paid close attention to permanent readiness for action. The Piaggio Beverly 250 was originally used as a car replacement. Lutz now has a car and the first-hand scooter has to go.

Comment from MOTORRAD editor K. Herder

I firmly believe that motorcycles (okay, scooters maybe …) have a soul. They are like pets and can sense exactly whether you mean well with them. And if so, they give a lot back. For example reliability. It doesn’t matter whether on pleasure tours or on the daily commute to work / university.

Interview with Helge Schroder (Service Manager)

Helge Schroder (42), service manager at the long-established Hamburg-based BMW dealer Studemann, talks about the differences in model series, boxer favorites and warm and cold driving.

MOTORCYCLE: In your experience, which BMW models are the absolute kilometer eaters?

Helge Schroder: Clearly those with the old K three or four-cylinder, so the “Lego engines” as I lovingly call them. These things just run forever.

MOTORCYCLE: And why is that?

Helge Schroder: Probably because many parts are “oversized” in the best sense of the word. This can always be seen quite well when we take an engine apart when changing a clutch, for example, and the transmission still looks almost like new after more than 100,000 kilometers.

MOTORCYCLE: What are the differences to the newer generations of engines??

Helge Schroder: If treated well, they will last a long time, but the mileage of the first K engines may not quite match that. Which is not surprising either, because the weight issue – and with it the part dimensioning – is playing an increasingly important role, and the ever increasing liter output is also an issue.

MOTORCYCLE: Let’s get to the boxer – which engines have the most kilometer potential?

Helge Schroder: The 1150 engines and the final oil / air cooled 1200 are my all-time favorites.

MOTORCYCLE: Your ultimate tip to keep it going?

Helge Schroder: Sensitive warming and cold driving are extremely important. Unfortunately, less and less attention is paid to this. Sensitive does not mean high-speed, of course, but neither does it mean low-speed. And if the fan starts up after driving on the highway or after long city traffic, do not switch it off immediately, but wait until the fan switches off.

Price overview of used motorcycles with over 100,000 kilometers

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Many used motorcycles do not show their high mileage.

A high mileage doesn’t have to mean something bad on used motorcycles. If they are regularly serviced, some models mutate into real kilometer hogs and drive well over 100,000 kilometers. Here is a price overview of used motorcycles with over 100,000 kilometers: used motorcycles with over 100,000 kilometers in Germany.

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