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- Used check: BMW BMW used advice: F 800
- Used hit parade
- Technical specifications
- Facelift F 800 S / ST
- F 800 S and ST in detail
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BMW used advice: F 800
A lesson in five acts: How a false start becomes a success. Why series sounds like boxers. What the clone did. Why 650 is actually 800. What life is like without Tele-, Duo or Paralever. MOTORRAD explains what to look for when buying a used BMW racing machine.
Klaus Herder
07/21/2011
Simply good: The F 800 dispenses with the usual BMW chassis frills – and is still fast.
We have the boxer for the traditionalists and the single-cylinder for the women of the traditionalists. And we have the K models for all four-cylinder fans with a Japanese phobia – we’re still missing something?”
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The BMW managers did not have to think twice: “We lack the typical middle class!” In response to this finding, the Bavarians presented the fourth model series in their modular system in 2006 with the initially only two-part F-800 collection. The half-naked S and her touring sister ST, who was incomprehensible only a few months later, made no secret of the fact that their production had to be significantly cheaper than that of the boxers. Two unadorned aluminum profiles as a frame, toothed belt instead of cardan shaft, telescopic fork instead of Telelever, a directly hinged shock absorber and therefore no chassis frills, as well as a – at least externally – quite simple in-line two-cylinder that was manufactured by Rotax in Austria – pretty was different.
But the pragmatic sisters convinced from the start with driving stability, low fuel consumption, great throttle response, a lot of power in the lower and middle speed range and a very pleasant sound.
Gentle character: better throttle response, fewer load changes – the F 650 GS is the better F choice for some.
The twin, which is by no means so simple inside (keyword “Auxiliary connecting rod”) sounds as robust as its boxer sisters, with whom it is closely related technically as a co-runner. So it could have been the beginning of a wonderful middle-class career. But it wasn’t; because the boxer sound was accompanied by nasty background noises: The F cloned, cracked and clacked. When shifting, when changing loads, when coasting – actually always. BMW got the problem under control at the beginning of 2007, but the F 800, especially in the somewhat more uncomfortable S version, stopped at the dealer for the time being. As a result, the much more humane ST succeeded in rallying a fan base consisting of more sedate and calmer characters, but it wasn’t until spring 2008 that the F 800 topic really caught on: the F 800 GS and with a new frame and revised engine their sister F 650 GS stormed the approval charts.
The 650 has nothing in common with the single of the same name. As with the F 800 GS, its displacement is 798 cm³, but for marketing reasons (“Maybe beginners don’t dare to go for an 800”) the simpler equipped GS with 71 instead of 85 hp weaker GS led to a confusion of names. But the circus was probably not so wrong: The F 650 GS is the best-selling F-Twin. But the ingeniously handy and chic F 800 R will probably overtake her. The 87 hp sweeper is new and used like hotcakes.
Used hit parade
At the risk of not being able to read it anymore: For every halfway young used BMW, the complete service booklet is a decisive purchase criterion; because BMW is world champion when it comes to things “Facelift at the dealer” and “silent callbacks”. Here a new mapping, there an improved component – if you don’t show up at the friendly, you look into the tube. Important (service book) check point for S and ST used buyers: Was the timing belt changed after 40,000 kilometers? Of course the part lasts longer, how long exactly, but nobody can guarantee it. Anyone who visits an R or GS has it easier; because their chain wear can be easily checked. Early chain elongation is an issue, especially with the F 650 GS. 34 HP throttles and lowering are not only available as original conversions, but also as accessories. Better hands off, their quality (response behavior or chassis geometry) usually does not come close to the original. Also worth checking: Hidden screw connections – rust likes to bloom here.
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Masterpiece: The four-time street bike freestyle world champion Chris Pfeiffer has been using the F as gymnastics equipment since 2006. There was a special model named after him of the R version in the 2010 model year.
There is a clear used hit parade for the F-800 series: The F 800 GS is right at the top and therefore the most popular. For less than 8,000 euros, there are only kilometer kings (over 20 tkm) or copies with off-road battle marks – if at all. The majority is traded between 8,500 and 9,000 euros. The F 800 R and the F 650 GS are just as expensive (compared to the original price). Used R start at just under 7,000 euros, the best selection is between 7,500 and 8,200 euros. the “small” GS is traded from 5500 euros, it gets interesting between 6000 and 6500 euros. The following applies to the three models: The demand (at the retailer!) Is usually greater than the supply. The ST follows with a gap in popularity – good offers start at 6,000 euros. The S is the last in popularity, but has crossed the dumping valley. With luck, from under five mille.
| Price level in euros |
Technical specifications
engine
Water-cooled two-cylinder four-stroke in-line engine, two overhead, chain-driven camshafts, four valves per cylinder, dry sump lubrication, injection, regulated catalytic converter, mechanically operated multi-disc oil bath clutch, six-speed gearbox, toothed belt.
Bore x stroke 82.0 x 75.6 mm
Displacement 798 cc
rated capacity 62.5 kW (85 PS) at 8000 rpm
Max. Torque 86 Nm at 5800 rpm
landing gear
Bridge frame made of aluminum, telescopic fork, single-sided swing arm made of aluminum, central spring strut, directly hinged, adjustable spring base and rebound damping, double disc brake at the front, disc brake at the rear, with a surcharge with ABS.
Cast aluminum wheels 3.50 x 17; 5.50 x 17
Tires 120/70 ZR 17; 180/55 ZR 17
Dimensions + weights
Wheelbase 1466 mm, steering head angle 63.8 degrees, caster 95 mm, spring travel f / r 140/140 mm, seat height * 840 mm, weight with a full tank * 218 kg, payload * 187 kg, tank capacity / reserve 16/4 liters.
Measurements
(MOTORCYCLE 20/2006)
Top speed** 221 km / h
acceleration
0-100 km / h 3.8 sec
0-200 km / h 16.7 sec
Draft
60-140 km / h 9.7 sec
Consumption 4.0 l / 100 km (country road);
4.3 l / 100 km (at 130 km / h), super
Facelift F 800 S / ST
2006 Market launch of the F 800 S in April, F 800 ST in May; Colors: sunset yellow uni, flame red uni (S); Graphitan metallic matt, blue metallic (ST). Prices: 8450/9150 Euro (S / ST).
2007 New color for S: Lahar gray metallic. Prices: 8660/9380 euros.
2008 Technical change: Service display in the multifunction display. Prices: 8660/9500 euros.
2009 Change in scope of delivery: third vehicle key; new colors: white aluminum metallic matt, engine black instead of silver (S); Midnight blue-
metallic, champagne metallic (ST). Prices: 8750/9770 euros.
2010 Color changes: rims black glossy (S); Engine black (ST); End of production of the S in July. Prices: 8750/9770 euros.
2011 New colors: sapphire black metallic, light gray metallic / sapphire black metallic / granite gray metallic. Price: 9770 euros.
Technical campaigns / recalls: 2/07 Retrofitting dampened belt pinion; 6/07 replacement of spark plugs; 2/08 optimize the routing of the tank ventilation hose; 4/08 swap
Shock absorber; 6/08 Replacement of steering damper.
F 800 S and ST in detail
Clear: analog display of speed and engine speed, on-board computer costs extra (185 euros); higher fork bridge with tubular handlebar as ST feature.
Clever: real parallel twin – the pistons move up and down synchronously; Valve actuation via two camshafts and rocker arms; Mass balancing via auxiliary connecting rod and rocker arm.
Clean: timing belt change only every 40,000 kilometers; Pinion change in the first series much earlier due to noise and load change reactions.
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