3000 liters of water needed
Battery fire on cargo bike: fire brigade has to immerse electric bike in container
Annette Riedl/dpa/archive picture Cargo bikes should conquer the inner cities. One of the electric bikes burned down in Stuttgart (symbol image)
The Greens want to fund electric cargo bikes with one billion euros. However, the charging of e-bike batteries always leads to fires – as is the case at a bicycle dealer in Stuttgart. Fighting the fire required unconventional methods.
Shock moment in a bicycle shop in Stuttgart: An electric cargo bike triggered an alarm at the fire brigade on Monday due to the beginning of a battery fire. "Apparently due to a technical defect, the battery of a three-wheeled cargo bike that was in a storeroom of the shop started dying around 4 p.m.10 a.m. to start smoking heavily. Alerted firefighters brought the bike outside. The smoke also moved into a building opposite, which then had to be ventilated by the fire brigade", reports the Stuttgart police. There are no reports of injuries.
Cargo bike starts to burn
The road had to be completely closed for the operation. As photos of the operation show, the fire brigade wore respiratory protection – which is usual in the event of a fire, especially since battery fires produce highly toxic gases – and used an unconventional method to extinguish the fire: the bike was maneuvered into a closed container. This method is also used for burning e-cars and hybrid vehicles.
When asked by Site, a spokesman for the city of Stuttgart explained that the rescuers on site simply used the transport container of the cargo bike themselves: "During the course of the operation, the fire brigade was able to remove the box body from the cargo bike and placed the chassis with the battery pack in the body. The box body was about half filled with water in order to cool the battery under water.
3000 liters of water were needed
, "because the box body was not completely watertight and the fire brigade had to keep refilling it with water", the spokesman continued. It took the fire brigade 2.5 hours to extinguish the cargo bike.
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Most recently, fires in electric cars and plug-in hybrids in particular made the headlines – and called the fire brigades into action .
Electric VW burns – mother saves child just in time
A problem with battery fires, in addition to highly toxic fumes, is the enormous water consumption. While a normal vehicle can be extinguished with 500 liters of water and in a short time, according to fire brigade experts, it takes up to 10.000 liters required. In addition, the battery must be monitored for 72 hours, as it can catch fire again at any time. One of the most recent known incidents involved a VW ID.3, which ignited in seconds after charging; one mother just had time to unbuckle her child from the child seat and get to safety before the electric VW burned out .
Fire risk with e-cars and e-bikes
The good news: For electric cars, experts have so far been able to determine, that despite the much greater effort involved in extinguishing the fire, the general risk of fire is no greater than in cars with petrol and diesel engines. In the bicycle sector it is of course different: since a Dutch bike cannot burn, the risk there is limited to two- or three-wheeled mobility. Again and again there are reports of burning bicycle batteries, some of which have serious consequences. These cases are likely to increase significantly as cargo bikes and normal e-bikes become more and more popular. If you charge your e-bike at home in the garage or in the basement, you should pay particular attention to safe electrical connections. To be on the safe side, charging outdoors is recommended.
When it comes to electric cars, fire experts point out that underground car parks and depots pose a particular risk. Fire protection expert Niki Traxel, a specialist in dealing with burning lithium-ion batteries, says to Site: "As a safety measure, a distance between the vehicles during charging is important – because during the charging process there is a risk of a fire incident biggest." Traxel also says you have to "discuss about it", whether it makes sense to charge electric cars in underground car parks. Because there, on the one hand, the spread to other vehicles is much more likely and extinguishing is also considerably more complicated. However, there are technical solutions – such as special separate parking boxes for electric cars that inhibit the spread of fire and can easily be flooded.
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Who is actually suing the Nabu or the misguided Greens?! We’ll get the receipt … get this decade! First the economic collapse and then the ecological one!
Battery explosion in Eisenberg
Quote from RPR1 / Police KIB beginning: In Eisenberg on Thursday, 30.09.2021 at around 8:40 p.m. there was an explosion in an apartment building. According to initial findings, the trigger was the stored battery of an electric scooter. Several people injured According to the police, three residents were injured in the explosion and one woman is in mortal danger. The battery of an electric scooter stored in the apartment was probably to blame for the explosion. The windows of the ground floor apartment were thrown out by the force of the blast. The amount of property damage caused to the building is not yet known. Because dangerous gases were also measured, the residents were initially not allowed to return to their apartments. End of quote So all good and safe?Certainly not
Battery is cause of explosion, was just on the radio
transmitted (SWR1). An expert examines why. One person is in critical condition in the hospital. The highly toxic gases are dangerous, and the risk of fire is also real, even if battery fans vehemently deny it, here’s another proof of that. Should think about it before making a decision.
It’s gonna be fun
if, with increasing electromobility, the fire brigades do not have enough staff to operate a safe fire watch or fire watch…I don’t need current electronic scrap like that.One should have done more research in peace. The market would have settled it. Have a safe trip everyone. 13:24
i am mal
curious if something happens in my company where I work. In the underground car park, in the approx. 3000 cars have space, 25 e-parking spaces were next to each other (!) set up without partitions. The building is from the 1970s and the garage has a headroom that not even a mobile home can drive in – let alone the fire brigade…….
I don’t understand how something like this gets approved
It is quite obviously a potential danger to human life and limb. Are there at least evacuation plans, if they exist, are they regularly trained with the workforce? One mistake is enough and catastrophe ensues. I can’t imagine that the fire brigade would just nod off like that. They have to go in there in case of fire. The heat and toxic gases make this highly dangerous
2.5 hours to unload a bike …….
The fire was detected very early. 3000l contaminated extinguishing water to be disposed of as hazardous waste. And how much is in the groundwater and sewage system? But everything is fine, yes "green fire" for environmental protection. In addition to the environmental pollution, I see the direct danger to humans, as described in the article, the gases are highly toxic. In addition, hydrofluoric acid is produced (described in detail in the other Focus article), which even penetrates the protective suit of the fire brigade and can lead to respiratory arrest. All of this is of course good because there is a "green" idea is. Perhaps this event will give clear-thinking people a new perspective on the situation. With large car batteries, the problem increases even further. Can that save a world?? have doubts.
Those who think these batteries are harmless
should check it out "UN 3480" and "UN 3481" google. These batteries are considered dangerous goods and must be labeled as such. Generally not permitted as air freight. Everything just for harmless batteries or is there more behind it? At least there are rules. So I don’t want to sit on it, and I don’t want to live in a house under which such batteries are charged or stored.
2.5 hours to unload a bike …….
The fire was detected very early. 3000l contaminated extinguishing water to be disposed of as hazardous waste. And how much is in the groundwater and sewage system? But everything is fine, yes "green fire" for environmental protection. In addition to the environmental pollution, I see the direct danger to humans, as described in the article, the gases are highly toxic. In addition, hydrofluoric acid is produced (described in detail in the other Focus article), which even penetrates the protective suit of the fire brigade and can lead to respiratory arrest. All of this is of course good because there is a "green" idea is. Perhaps this event will give clear-thinking people a new perspective on the situation. With large car batteries, the problem increases even further. Can that save a world?? have doubts.
This article is not correct
In Scandinavian countries, battery fires are not extinguished with water, but with special fire blankets. Works particularly effectively in underground car parks. The fire died out in a few minutes. In Germany, too, more and more fire brigades are being equipped with them.
A battery fire cannot be smothered!
Have you ever heard of chemistry? Lithium continues to burn, even under water. One can only cool to slow down the chemical reaction. If the cooling with water is not fully enclosing, is produced hydrogen, in conjunction with the surrounding air it becomes bang gas, results in an explosion in the end! They can reproduce at any time with small batteries. The blankets are for heat shielding only.
Ecological nonsense
The so-called electromobility is ecological nonsense and poses huge dangers for people and the environment due to battery fires. Why don’t many airlines transport lithium-ion batteries?? Why are lithium-ion batteries subject to dangerous goods legislation? Exactly, because it has been shown to have caused a number of plane crashes.
subsidies
So you can pay the water bill. Now I get it. Batteries are processed in Belgium, we still have to do research, this is EUROPE. Nobody can use the old wind turbine blades either, final storage is wanted. Everything reaches for the "E" drug instead of research and technology. applause.
cargo bike
Just leave out all the e-waste then the environmental pollution will be half as big and much cheaper. The fire brigades no longer need to expose themselves to danger and the environment is protected
is actually explained how these bikes come on
respond to mechanical stress? That means an accident with a car, truck or tram is not unlikely. If the battery is sufficiently protected, the electrodes are only micrometers apart, if they come together, the chain reaction occurs and it burns inextinguishably. If the other party involved in the accident is a tanker truck or battery transporter, there will be a catastrophe.