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Second-hand advice Vespa P (X) 200 E
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Cult object and everyday mule: with the Vespa P 200 E, the Italian scooter builders succeeded in 1977 in creating a classic that, still produced today as the PX 200, is still considered a vehicle for the young at heart.

Gerfried Vogt

04/27/1998

O-Ton MOTORRAD endurance test 1982: “Once you get used to the typical characteristics of a scooter, you can sometimes dare to take a steep lean angle in the bends. On the left, the thick rubber brushes against the main stand foot and warns of worse. On the right, on the other hand, the lower end of the Kickstarter occasionally scratches the asphalt, whereupon the rear of the scooter – oh dread, let it go – is levered a little towards the outer edge of the curve. Of course, this limit is not reached in normal operation. “
the Vespa The PX 200 was not only convincing as a manoeuvrable city vehicle, but real scooter freaks undertook everything from an extended weekend trip to a summer trip of several weeks in the economical and problem-free vehicle. Even today, the two-stroke PX series, which has been running for 20 years, embodies the archetype of the legendary motor scooter.
Corradino d´Ascanio, actually a professional aircraft engine engineer, designed the original Vespa in 1946, the inexpensive two-wheeler for the Italian post-war generation. Weather and dirt protection as well as freedom from maintenance had top priority, its relationship with aircraft construction was written on the sheet metal face of the finished Vespa: it has retained the self-supporting body, one-sided wheels and air cooling of the engine by means of a fan to this day. Countless license productions around the globe as well as the production figures confirm their success. When the first P 200 E of the »Nuova Linea ?? The models mentioned above rolled off the assembly line in Pontedera in 1977, and six million Vespa have already rolled down the streets around the world.
The P 200 E replaced its predecessor, the Rally 200, in this country in autumn 1978, and now had a spare wheel and an electronic ignition system. The spring travel of the drawn short swing arm grew to a more comfortable 90 millimeters, and there was finally a lockable overhead locker. More dignified locking with new shift cables should make it easier to operate the four-speed twist grip on the left end of the handlebar, and the shape and mounting of the foot brake lever are more ergonomic. For insurance reasons, the P 200 E in Germany was throttled with modified timing from twelve to ten hp, good for at least 100 km / h top speed.
The first model series, recognizable by the ignition lock in the headlight cover, was later only slightly modified: From chassis number VSX 1T 112652, the steering column was given a larger diameter of 36.5 millimeters, and almost at the same time the front wheel axle grew by four to 20 millimeters in diameter. Theft of the engine and side hood has been a thing of the past since 1982, when the jaw lock moved under the lockable bench seat.
This standard series did not expire in Italy until 1985, under the name Arcobaleno a completely revised line of the PX models was started there as early as 1983, but it did not come to Germany until a year later as the Lusso series. The most important change: the long overdue switch to separate lubrication.
The engineers tried to remedy the constantly rubbing drum brakes with floating brake cams and cables that can now be adjusted with an adjusting screw. A combined ignition / steering lock including a new speedometer with fuel gauge made everyday scooter life easier. For kick-tired there was even the “Elestart” with an electric starter that fed a nine-AH battery hidden in the spare wheel under the left cheek. All Bowden cables have been Teflon-coated for easy service since 1985. In the same year, the Augsburg importer also delighted sporty Vespisti with the twelve hp GS version that is still available today.
In the 1982 MOTORRAD long-distance test, the P 200 E had to prove its qualities over 12,500 kilometers. During this distance, the ignition box failed twice due to a vibrated cable, apart from a defective piston ring and the worn gearshift cross, there was nothing to complain about. The latter only goes on strike if the two shift cables are not precisely adjusted – then the third and fourth gears jump out.
From 1983 Piaggio had an understanding and used a flatter shift cross, a modified main shaft and reinforced transmission gears. Rust corrosion on the chassis is widespread, worn-in needle bearings on the front wheel are also not uncommon. Chattering clutches are now, since the PX 200 has had the reinforced three-plate clutch of the Cosa model since the end of 1993. If the lamps burn out with regularity, a defective voltage regulator is to blame; If the indicators no longer want, it is often due to the ground contacts of the hood locks or cheekbones.
Since the aftermarket offers a lot of tuning parts, the used buyer is often offered heavily modified PX 200. Caution is advised, as many things are not permitted or are not carried out in an amateurish way. If you want to get active yourself and make your Vespa sporty, you can replace defective shock absorbers with gas pressure shock absorbers from Bitubo (with a strength report from alpha-technik, phone 08036/4545), the nicasil-coated 210 cm³ light metal cylinder including pistons from Malossi is suitable for serious engine tuning most likely (with TuV certificate from Scooter Center Cologne, phone 02238/945161, or scooter center Munich, phone 089/502 88 43).
Craftspeople can maintain their Vespa themselves, books for do-it-yourself screwdrivers are available in stores (Vespa Motorroller, Editions Schneider Text, ISBN 2-911870-00-X, 29, 80 Marks, or the
Repair manual Vespa PX / Cosa, Bucheli-Verlag, ISBN 3-7168-1804-6, 42 marks).
The selection of used P (X) 200s is enormous, around 26,000 copies are registered in Germany. A reasonably decent PX 200 with mixed lubrication is available from around 1500 Marks, and a well-preserved Lusso from around 2000 Marks. And anyone who has bought a purring wasp in Italy can contact import specialist Stefan Huber for German approval (phone 08102/783564).

Reading experiences

MOTORRAD readers often use their PX 200 E more often than their motorcycle, mostly do the work themselves and are only annoyed by frequent tearing Bowden cables.

My wife and I each own a Vespa PX 200 with 24,000 and 5,000 kilometers. We had previously shared a Vespa of this type and sold it again with about 30,000 kilometers and little depreciation. Nobody has seen the inside of a workshop yet. The consumption of the small engine of 5.5 liters per 100 kilometers is annoying. The 201 kilogram payload of the PX even makes our Honda Seven-Fifty jealous.Thomas Mayer, OldenburgMy PX 200 Lusso was bought new in 1990 and stopped for the first time three weeks ago at mileage 69 596 (candle electrode burned down after 35,000 kilometers) . When the odometer reading was 20000, a new exhaust was due (completely coked, since then it has been receiving Castrol greentec). After 10,000 kilometers I gave her a Cosa main headlight, the brakes were each used once and pull like on the first day – namely not at all. The Lusso is the most reliable and uncomplicated vehicle that I know – and never starts on the first step, but always on the second step. Michael Wickenhauser, Diersburg The transmission ratio of the PX 200 GS must be changed for sidecar operation. It is possible to only install the shorter fourth gear of the Vespa T 5 or to change the primary drive. I exchanged the primary gear with 65 teeth for the PX 80 with 68 teeth and can use clutch gears with 20, 21 or 22 teeth. I have been driving the Cosa clutch with 20 teeth on the 68 primary gear for 13,000 kilometers. Herbert Gilch, Schauenburg 100-Mark-Tip Immediately after buying my PX 200 GS in May 1996, I bought a touring windshield. In order to be able to lubricate the Bowden cables, you have to dismantle the mirror arms, and they can only be removed after dismantling the window. My tip: Attach the mirror with booms from the trade from below to the steering head (internal threads are available) and use the cover of an older PX without integrated mirror booms ?? it can be removed after loosening four screws. Werner Kientz, Esslingen From 1982 to 1996 I drove 167,820 kilometers with the Vespa, around 90,000 of them with two people and luggage. After 14 winters, rust separated us. The construction principle is ingeniously simple, only the processing leaves a lot to be desired and forced many small repairs. Nevertheless, I bought two new ones: one to drive and one to attract attention among the plastic scooters in the future. Reinhold Stobel, Starnberg

Technical data – Vespa PX 200 E

Strengths Robust, elastic engineEasy-care constructionHuge selection of accessories and tuning partsWeaknesses antiquated manual transmissionWeak brakesLean lightTechnical data engineFan-cooled single-cylinder two-stroke with rotary valve inlet control, displacement 198 cm3, 10 HP (7 kW) at 5000 / min, mixture lubrication 1: 50 (Lusso: Separate lubrication), kick starter (Lusso Elestart: E and kick starter), a Dellorto carburettor, passage 24 mm, contactless ignition, multi-disc clutch, four-speed gearbox with twist grip, direct drive Hydraulic strut front and rear, two drum brakes.Dimensions and weights Steering head angle 65 degrees Caster 76 mm Wheelbase 1240 mm Seat height 810 mm Handlebar width 700 mm Tank capacity / reserve 8 / 2.1 liter oil tank (Lusso version) 1.5 liters / 0.45 reserve Weight fully fueled 109/114 kg ( Lusso Elestart) Perm. Total weight 290 kgTest valuesMaximum speedSolo / with pillion 92/84 km / hAcceleration 0 – 80 km / h 4.1sConsumption 4.7 litersFuel normalSpare part pricesCoupling lever 12 MarkCoupling cable 28 MarkTachometer 148 MarkFork complete 208 MarkFront wheel rim 60 MarkCoupling complete 68 MarkFrame complete 1410 MarkCoupler complete 68 MarkFrame complete 1410 Mark 7 Mark rear shock absorber 92 Mark head tube 242 Mark test in motorcycle long distance test 11/1982 Comparison test 15/1992 Tires 3.50 -10 3.50 – 10 without branding (recommendation: Michelin S 1 or Michelin Dexter) for nine kW models reinforced tires (recommendation: Metzeler ME 1 or Heidenau K 38) Facelift P 200 E1977 from VSX 1T 1 101Model start in Italy, still without indicators 1978 Introduction of the P 200 E in Germany in autumn with indicators, contactless ignition and 5.5 Ah battery, mixture lubrication 1: 501982 from VSX 1T 112 625 reinforced fork with 20 mm axle diameter on the front wheel, new bearing and sealing from VSX 1T 111922 changed jaw lock iegelungPX 200 E1983 from VSX 1T 300 001 Lusso version in Germany with separate lubrication1984 from VSX 1T 3000 001 Lusso Elestart (E-Starter) in Germany from VSX 1T 315 267Gearbox with wider tooth flanks, flat switch cross, new gearbox main shaft, brakes with floating brake cams, adjustment option 1985 with VSX 1T 195574, standard model series in Italy expires from VSX1 T 3003 760GS version in Germany with 9 kW / 12 HP at 5700 rpm 1996 Clutch of the Cosa now with 3 instead of 2 friction disks, instead of 7 now 8 spring swivel -Used prices 1978 – 1991: 1500 to 2400 Mark1992: (48 300 km) 2750 Mark1993: (39 900 km) 3000 Mark1994: (31 500 km) 3350 Mark1995: (23 100 km) 3650 Mark1996: (14 700 km) 4100 Mark1 tests can be ordered from the publisher, see box on page for telephone ??

Sheet metal alternatives

Smaller PX models and the Indian LML Vespa as variants

Externally, the PX 125/150 can hardly be distinguished from the 200. Until the start of the SKR models in 1993, the 125cc was Italy’s best-selling scooter. It is still offered in this country today, while the 150 disappeared from the range in 1992. From 1985 the T 5 was available as a 125cc sports version with twelve hp and rectangular headlights. Older PX 125s are also interesting for 16-year-olds, a throttle exhaust at 80 km / h with a TuV certificate costs 199 marks from SIP Scootershop, phone 08191/942303.

LML stands for the Indian company Lohia Machines Ltd. The PX 150 E has been rolling off the production line in Kanpur since 1985. The majority owner Piaggio also has a large part of the PX parts for the European market manufactured there. The RWN company from Penzberg imports the Indian Vespa. Since the new price of an LML Vespa is well below that of an Italian one, used ones from India are also cheaper. However, the motor, which is more responsive with a lighter fan wheel, still consumes a 1:50 mixture.

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